Calculator v1.1.0.0 Available!

Discuss the fourth game in the series.

Moderator: ItL Moderators

User avatar
Wave-tan
Bloodant
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Multinational
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Wave-tan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:51 pm

And the calculator is

On to the next herculean task.
Wave-tan | Administrative Overlord
Waveform Development Circle
waveformfeedback@gmail.com
There's no kill like overkill

User avatar
negzee
ItL's resident princess
Posts: 4049
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 pm
Location: Minnesoouuda
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby negzee » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:47 pm

Yay! Congrats on gettin' that done. :)

User avatar
Wave-tan
Bloodant
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Multinational
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Wave-tan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:50 pm

Wave-tan | Administrative Overlord
Waveform Development Circle
waveformfeedback@gmail.com
There's no kill like overkill

User avatar
negzee
ItL's resident princess
Posts: 4049
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 pm
Location: Minnesoouuda
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby negzee » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:32 pm

It's still pretty early. Lots of people are still just starting their explorations. :) (I'm still only in the mid-30s in the 3rd land, myself....)

User avatar
Reynard-Miri
Manticor
Posts: 3190
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:09 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Reynard-Miri » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:40 pm

I've been waiting for this, actually.

My party is still level 15. ^_^"

emailboxu
Fenrir
Posts: 140
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:27 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby emailboxu » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:02 pm

Woo! Thanks for the calculator

User avatar
Maxine MagicFox
ItL Webmaster
Posts: 13474
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:20 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Maxine MagicFox » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:04 pm

I'm starting to hit 40s but pffft, now is when I'm starting to consider resting and debating subclassing. In my opinion, it's the later levels that you need to start focusing on this kind of thing. ^_^ As soon as I downloaded the calculator, I made one for my Landsknecht,so it's already seen some use, Wave. XD

[] - [] - [] - []

User avatar
Dangerus
Manticor
Posts: 1609
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Dangerus » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:22 pm


User avatar
Liferake
Hunter
Posts: 823
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:32 am
Location: Texas
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Liferake » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:03 am

Nitpicking! (And math!)
Defense Debuffs are applied to the ENEMEY and are not acting as buffs to the player.

Elaboration:
Both Charm Eye and Atrophic Eye do the same thing (Lower Attack or Defense by 20%), but when hitting an enemy who has 80% of their defense you will do 1.25x damage (Reciprical of 4/5 is 5/4), just like how if you hit an enemy who has 50% of their defense, you'll do 2x damage (Reciprical of 1/2 is 2/1).

Atrophic Eye: 20% (Causes you to do 1.25x damage)
Land's Enlightenment: ~23.08% (Causes you to 1.3x damage)
Land's Expertise: 20% (Causes you to do 1.25x damage)
Land's Proficiency: 16.666666...% (Causes you to do 1.2x damage)
Star Drop: ~28.57% (Causes you to do 1.4x damage)

Now notice this:
Enemies Defense 100%
+ Atrophic Eye 80%
+ Land's Expertise 64% (20% of 80% is 16%, 80 - 16 = 64)
An attack hitting an enemy at 64% (16/25) of its defense is going to do 1.5625x (25/16) damage.

Now punch 1.25 * 1.25 into a calculator.

Yeah, its the same thing but its a different way to say it. One puts it in the perspective of the players attacking a weakened enemy, the other is the actual effect to the enemies defense.


User avatar
Zaraf
Fenrir
Posts: 159
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:41 am
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Zaraf » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:34 am

Congrats on finishing your skill sim Wave-tan :) I'm liking the character images and such that you used. And yeah, I would agree with negzee that it's still early in the life span of this game and a lot of people can still make use of it. Also, a lot of people like to retire or rest late in the game too, so this can come in handy both early, mid and late game. Plus the ability to save your character builds easily and even move windows side by side so you can view separate characters together is quite handy.

Glad to see you managed to finish! :)

User avatar
Doktor_Q
Manticor
Posts: 1150
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:14 pm
Location: Denial
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Doktor_Q » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:23 am

Is there a shortcut instead of clicking on the skill once for each point? Otherwise I think my mouse is going to break (sooner than it would).


In case of implosion, look directly at implosion.

User avatar
Wave-tan
Bloodant
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Multinational
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Wave-tan » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:16 pm

Wave-tan | Administrative Overlord
Waveform Development Circle
waveformfeedback@gmail.com
There's no kill like overkill

User avatar
Doktor_Q
Manticor
Posts: 1150
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:14 pm
Location: Denial
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Doktor_Q » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:28 pm

That was one of the many things I tried while looking for it, so that would be much appreciated! Any chance of getting to see what level it'd require, or do I just have to buckle down and calculate it myself?


In case of implosion, look directly at implosion.

User avatar
Wave-tan
Bloodant
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Multinational
Contact:

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Wave-tan » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:47 pm

Wave-tan | Administrative Overlord
Waveform Development Circle
waveformfeedback@gmail.com
There's no kill like overkill

User avatar
Doktor_Q
Manticor
Posts: 1150
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:14 pm
Location: Denial
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Calculator Slightly Delayed [No Longer!]

Postby Doktor_Q » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:17 pm

Mmm. Alright. I can synchronize levels by points spent anyway, so the only biggie is "does this get me to level 20/40 naturally."


In case of implosion, look directly at implosion.


[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable
56 posts

Return to “Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests