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Maxine MagicFox
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:51 am Reply with quote
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So is anyone else getting this game week after next?

I'm toying with the idea of it. I've not been able to get into the DS game that much but this one sounds like not only does it have an easy mode but in normal it plays like Izuna in that you don't lose your levels (well... you revert back to the level you were before you entered the dungeon...).

Hearing that kinda got me a little more excited about it. I've tried to go through the DS game but every time something happens that's completely out of my control it's like "how am I suppose to beat this?!"

Even when I opened the cart that transports you to the other village instantly it's like, again, what's the point since I need the levels of the skipped dungeon to be ready to face the next set of challenges.

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AppleInject
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:11 pm Reply with quote
Bloodant Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 225
This is for the Wii, right?

I tried out the DS version and it was so ungodly dull next to Izuna (which I enjoyed), wouldn't bother trying it and playing that kind of game on a Wii just seems bizarre to me.
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Maxine MagicFox
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:37 pm Reply with quote
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I didn't think it was so seriously dull and I'm trying to get into it again. I really think this game is going to be worthwhile since there are more characters that you can partner with.

^_^ Izuna definitely had its own flair, that I won't deny. Izuna and Izuna2 have my heart FOREVER. Still there is something about Shiren that attracts me to it, too, though I keep getting discouraged by the fact that I lose my levels. T-T

Well I've got a weapon in my storage that I plan on starting to build up every time I reach where I have it in storage. <_<; So, *sigh* here I go.... lol.

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AppleInject
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:13 pm Reply with quote
Bloodant Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 225
I really liked Izuna once I got the hang of things (the manual was completely useless), but I hated Izuna 2. Too flashy, too overboard. I was expecting more of the same goodness from the first game. ):

EDIT: Just for the record, I played Izuna for many many hours even though I think Izuna outside of dungeons is obnoxious and the dialogues hardly make sense. I'm not trying to be harsh on Izuna 2 or Shiren.

Shiren though... I didn't see anything really innovative or charming about it, and the level loss is such a stupid penalty to force on people. The least they could have done was make an easy mode without that handicap, you know? To give people an option of suffering less so they could focus on the story and get it over with. That's basic marketing if you ask me.
In any case, if it's something you want to enjoy then I hope you do that. If you really like partnering I would suggest playing the pokemon dungeon crawlers instead. Vastly cute, multiple teammates, special attacks, bright colors, available cheaply for GBA these days. No level loss. >_>
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Kimiko
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:04 pm Reply with quote
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Eh? Izuna 2 was more of the same goodness I think.

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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Bloodant Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 225
I just couldn't stand it. I hate being forced to talk to every single person in order to progress things and the dialogue sucked, but it was the excessive cinematics, mostly. ):
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postmanmanman
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:35 am Reply with quote
Ragelope Joined: 23 Mar 2010 Posts: 34
A bit late to the party posting here, but... anyways. I love roguelikes and the DS Shiren has always been the most faithful to true roguelike rules. I want to try the Wii version, but I'm not sure I can stand a roguelike that lets you keep your levels...! I'm rather surprised there's no way to turn that off.
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Liferake
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:21 pm Reply with quote
Ragelope Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 75 Location: Texas
I... wasn't as fond of this game as most others I have. I played a little bit, had fun, but then just cried bored when I got to the second village, turned the game off without saving accidently, and then just left it in my drawer of games, never to be touched again.

Yeah.

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:14 am Reply with quote
Ragelope Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 41 Location: New york
I have this game, I haven't played it yet though. Because I can't get off my new laptop XD

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Soham
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:18 pm Reply with quote
Ragelope Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 17
postmanmanman wrote:
A bit late to the party posting here, but... anyways. I love roguelikes and the DS Shiren has always been the most faithful to true roguelike rules. I want to try the Wii version, but I'm not sure I can stand a roguelike that lets you keep your levels...! I'm rather surprised there's no way to turn that off.


I agree. I love Shiren on the DS. It's hard and makes no apologies for it (I'm beginning to think I am a masochist. I also bought Contra 4 recently which is punishing beyond ridiculous! Without the 99 lives cheat, I defy anyone to beat that game, even on Normal mode, but that's another story...).

Anyway, I'm really happy for the relatively small Roguelike community that Shiren is coming to the Wii, but, like postmanmanman, I'm surprised that the option to play 'as originally intended' won't be there.
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