Discussion Thread II: Bots? What bots?

[Reynard-Miri]

Thank you for finally being a person who mostly makes sense on the topic.

Java's execution speed is actually quite decent, though. C and C++ are faster, but they're just about the only ones that are.

[Archaic Sage]

It's also a Security Manager's nightmare. So many developers will develop for specific versions so you can't patch as Oracle release patches. The JRE and JSE are different and can have conflicting dependencies.

Java is just a hole I'd like to fill. HTML5 is killing flash, which is great. Just got Java to kill.

Starfe, Macs integrate into AD subject to your domain controllers and AD is in 2008 and up and your Macs are 10.8 and up. Sometimes if the laptop has been off network for a while it will unbind and cause issues, even with login scripts and GPO policies.

You may want to compliment the Mac deployment with CasperSuite, which allows for policies to be set and bound via a SCCM like product. You can deploy with SCCM, but it's clunky and doesn't do corporate app stores.

With ipads, it's normally easier to use an MDM solution that integrates with AD.

ChromeBooks I can't help you with. I'd advise against them, as there's no resilience in the instance your network goes down.

[Starfe]

[Kimiko]

Kids using tablets and laptops in/for school.. What kind of distant future is this?
Back when I was a kid we didn't even have PCs anywhere in the school, let alone for kids to use. I feel so old now..

[Fluffernuff]

youre telling me! im barely drinking age and i had the same experience growing up in school. good lord

[Archaic Sage]

How old are you and where did you grow up? We had computers in our schools from the age of about 10 and my secondary/high school and three computer labs. I'm only 27...

Had no personal equipment from the school though.

[Maxine MagicFox]

Computers were becoming a "thing" when I was going to school but not quite there yet. And of course I was a Navy Brat so it was interesting the exposure to computers that I received.

In 3rd grade I received my first computer/typing class - but it was black screen stuff. Nothing exciting. 4th was more interesting as the school upgraded. I played a few reader rabbits and stuff and more typing classes (that started from the beginning). 5th grade I moved. No computers in the elementary buildings. 6th grade there was only one room in our middle school that had computers and that was the typing class. And remember that part about no computers? Since this was considered kids' "first exposure" ... more typing classes. Let's just add to the fact that since there was no computers in 5th grade that I used a computer software program to self-teach myself typing. So I literally had like 4 Typing 101 classes.

I wanted to kill myself in 6th grade I was so bored. People were getting yelled at for looking at hands (the teacher even put cardboard on the keyboards that we typed under to discourage this). I would get done with the program and lesson way early and spend the rest of the class period reading. 7th continued these classes. Oh and let me explain this in more detail: these were OLD floppy diskette computers. ~_^ I got to play first edition Oregon Trail on them. Don't ask about internet. THANK GOD in 8th we got more choice over our schedules to prepare us for high school (which offered no computers). But I at least got out of that stupid computer class. 10th I moved again and the high school was more advance than that previous state and ^_^ I was delighted to see an HTML class on the schedule listing~ there were like four rooms with computers. You can probably imagine my delight. A school that was not trapped in the dark ages. O_O

[Hong]

I was learning my way around DOS at age 7 or so. Granted, that's already mid 90s.

[Sampson]

When I was in elementary school (early 2000s) I remember that each classroom generally had ~3-4 computers for educational programs. There were two different programs for reading and math that everyone had to spend a small amount of time on during the week (I think). It was funny because the more questions you got right, the harder it became, so you had people getting to arithmetic that was more advanced than what they were learning. We had computer labs that had Windows 95 (I'm pretty sure...) but by the time I was in middle school they were upgraded to XP. By the time I started high school (late 2000s), the school district got funding for laptops, but they were for classroom use only and had to be returned at the end of the class period. This was a relatively rural, low-achieving school district, for reference.

[Kimiko]

School for me was 1980-1988 kindergarten/lower school and 1988-1994 middle school. Lower school (ages 4-12) was the one not having any PCs, not even for administration. They got two homecomputers (MSX) when I was in fifth class ('86-'87), but they were rarely rolled out of storage and never for education AFAIK. Middle school (ages 12-18) had some PCs for administration, but not in classrooms. At some point there turned out to be one classroom with IBM XTs, but they never got around to actually using it.

So, yeah, kids using tablets/laptops in class, even though you'd expect that in 2015, still sounds kinda science-fictiony to me.

[PLA]

^ It is sciencefiction. Old sciencefiction.

My aunt only recently figured out computers enough to watch cats on youtube.

[Wolfie]

[Hong]

[PLA]

Yo, this phpBB-layout! We rolling in style, now.

[heprea]

so many years spent on the left side of the forums and now... this is kinda scary :O