Discussion Thread II: Bots? What bots?

[Maxine MagicFox]

[Kinokokao]

Sucks for the famer. It's going to cost him money to paint over that message.

I have no problems with slaughtering animals for food, provided that they are kept humanely with adequate living space. I'm more concerned with how they are kept and raised than how they are killed.

My goal is to start buying the meat directly from the farmer. Someday I will have the money and the freezer big enough for that.

[Maxine MagicFox]

LOL, I'll agree that it will take money and that it sucks, but, at the same time, you sometimes just HAVE to have a sense of humor.

:3 And you're feelings are right on the mark with mine about the killing thing. I don't care how they are killed, as long as they were kept humanly (which they usually are because happy = fatter = more money) and they are appropriately cleaned after the killing. (I've got a side story to this, but I'll tack it down below.)

And as for buying it FROM farmer... I want to say SURE what a GREAT concept. Buying veggies and fruits from Farmer's Market is the greatest. But, I dunno about meat. The one half of me says: companies and corporations would take care of meat quality and make sure it's handled properly so I don't get sick and they have regulations to meet and all that. While the other half of me thinks: mad cow disease... salmonella....

But then it comes down to, at least it's one more step in making sure that I don't get sick that I wouldn't have in between me and some random Farmer Joe who probably scratches his butt as he's packaging the meat o_O;


@side story (almost forgot it): We read Fast Food Nation in our JOR class. When it got down the part about how they are slaughtered I realized how pathetically little people REALIZE what goes in to killing these creatures. o_O They were actually disturbed by the chapter. I read that chapter about four or five times trying to figure out what I was missing. I still sometimes wonder if there's something I'm not getting from it.

[negzee]

[Kinokokao]

[Maxine MagicFox]

[Kimiko]

[Maxine MagicFox]

The book focused on Mexicans, so that's what I targetted in that particular sentence. The sentiment stands with everyone, too. "We welcome all people to our nation, but first, you must be a member that we approve of." It's always sounded like some sort of sorority gig to me.

[Kinokokao]

We've had immigration quotas since the 19th century. Nothing new there.

@Kimiko

There are many people who come here to work illegally, either seasoning (crop-pickers) or temporarily. The problem is that despite putting a drain on resources they do not pay taxes, and the bulk of their income goes to their home country. I would like infrastructure in place to tighten regulations on employers. Often such undocumented workers are forced into working long hours for low pay. I do not mind if they work but I would like them to contribute taxes! So, yes, Kimiko you are supposed to have documentation but the bulk of illegal immigrants are employed by shady employers who are exploiting them. It's a sad situation.

@Buying Locally

It's cheaper per-pound, actually, but since you buy in bulk quantities it requires both the freezer space (which I do not have) and a sizable "down payment" if you would. You pay per pound per share. I think it's anywhere from $100 to $300 depending on how much you get. Typically it's like $3 or less per pound, and you get a ratio of T-Bone/steak cuts, flank, chuck, etc. so it's a good blend of pricey and cheap cuts... it works out to be extremely cost-effective, and you can even go visit the farmer and see how they are raised. Most of the animals are allowed to graze naturally in rotated pastures, rather than shoved into a commercial feedlot, which produces, as I've said, healthier animals and, thus, healthier meat.

There's a website that lists farmers in the area that you can purchase produce from.

[negzee]

[Maxine MagicFox]

[noodles]

I was talking to somebody

and I asked why so much of japan's shows and anime and manga and everything happens in goddamn high school

like as a focus

american cartoons have school sure but not every damn episode

and his response was

"after they graduate from high school they pretty much work until they die, so high school is the only time they are really alive"

this was a joke but

man

there might be truth in that

[ZetaBladeX13]

[noodles]

related

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzSR_TFMirs[/youtube]

also I cried

[negzee]